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Hi James,My choice was between Chrome and Bagaboo. But it took 8 weeks to get a Chrome to be carried on the right shoulder in France.
So I bought a Bagaboo, which has a pretty similar construction and quality.
Indeed, both are very good materials.
Did you measure the mass? Knapsacks with far less mass and far greater weatherproof volume can be found at gossamergear dot com, sixmoondesigns dot com and other similar ultralight backpacking sites on the web.
I’ve been using a Chrome Citizen bag (1 smaller than the Metropolis) for the past 3 years of commuting. It’s been great.One question, do you use the buckle? I know it’s part of Chrome’s brand but I think I could do without. I use mine once in a blue moon.
Chrome’s bag look sharp, but I gotta admit I’m happy with the Bailey Works bag I’ve been using for about four years now. I know some people really hate the buckle on Chrome bags, but it’s difficult to tell if their complaints are valid if they’re just going against the grain.
Lately, though, I’ve just been carrying a tiny little knapsack with enough space for my wallet, badge, phone, clothes for work, my lunch and some papers or a book.
B. Nicholson, no I didn’t measure the mass.
Anon 8:46, yes, companies send out product to be reviewed for marketing reasons. I appreciate the fact that Chrome sent me a bag to try out with the freedom to write whatever I want. I happen to really like the bag, so it got a good review. Still, there is no guarantee that a manufacturer will get a good review when they send product out to the media or especially to a blogger like myself. Companies are willing to take that chance though if they know they have a good product. Personally, if I receive something that I find minor faults with, like a few of the photographs in the book I reviewed recently, I will point those faults out. To be honest, if I were to receive a product to review that I really just didn’t like at all, I don’t know if I would give it a terrible review or just send it back to the company and not review it. That hasn’t happened yet.
Dan Mc, I haven’t really used the buckle aside from a couple of times when I first received the bag. Usually I just slip the shoulder strap over my head. Maybe the buckle would be useful for a messenger with a really heavy load. I don’t really know. Good question though.
Yokota Fritz, I have never used a Bailey Works bag. The only other messenger bags I have tried are the North Face one in the picture and an older Timbuk2 bag. I have also tried several different backpacks with varying degrees of success.
I do like tossing my laptop in a backup if I ride with one. With a bag such as this, I wonder if the weight of the laptop will be skewed across the right side because of the fact its tilted. Does it have a laptop compartment?
Ron, there is not a laptop compartment in this particular model. I don’t carry my laptop to work much, but I have ridden with it a couple times in its neoprene sleeve. No problems with weight distribution or load shifting if I have the pack cinched tight.
Ok thanks. I guess I’m in the market for something to carry my laptop in. I’m not in a hurry but I’m looking.
Ron, Chrome also makes specific bags for carrying a laptop (as do other bag manufacturers I believe). You might want to take a look at some of those instead of traditional messenger bags.
I’ve got a Chrome bag I picked up when I first saw ‘em – mostly because I REALLY liked the look of the buckle. I’m a sucker for design details like that, when they’re well done.
But the Buckle was it’s downfall – when I cinch up the bag to be secure when I ride, the buckle rests right on my collarbone, and is NOT comfortable. At all.
So, now it’s relegated to being a tool-bag. For commuting, I’m using an old Dana Designs “Emerald City” backpack – the BEST bike-riding bag I’ve ever found. Too bad it’s not available anymore….
I understand why messengers use messenger bags–they are on and off their bikes so much that even a quick-release pannier would not be quick enough, and their loads are usually pretty light–but I don’t understand why anyone would use one on a bike otherwise. It feels so much better to have the bike carry stuff for you! Am I missing something.
James owns something like 12 bikes, and not all of them have racks.
I often carry a bag even on my rack equipped bikes (four of my 12 bikes have racks) because, frankly, removing then replacing panniers when I load/unload my bike from the bus on my multimodal commute is slow, and loaded panniers while hoisting my bike onto a train is ungainly.
SW, I heard one other person say something about the buckle causing discomfort, but I haven’t had that problem at all. When I wear the bag, the padded strap fits nicely over my shoulder and the buckle is positioned in front of my chest.
Charlie, as Yokata Fritz mentioned in his comment, I often use both. For commuting to work, I have two bikes with rear racks. I use a trunk pack to carry heavier items like a U-lock and my lunch. The bag mainly just has paper work and clothes, so it is not very heavy. I put the trunk pack in a locker at my building, but I carry the messenger bag to my office. For me personally, it is just easier to keep things organized that way. Many years ago, when my commute was about 15 miles, I used panniers to carry everything. Now I am only riding a bit over 5 miles each way, so I don’t mind splitting the load between the bike and my body (as long as I have a comfortable bag).
…and Fritz, I am down to 8 bikes now. Well, really 10 if you count a couple of project bikes in varying states of assembly.
I've got a chrome bag – bought it for the looks, and it's well proportioned. Unfortunately the bag alone weighs at least 5lbs. it's not a great, practical bag unless you're willing to carry around the extra weight to feel like a part of the bike messenger subculture – which many people (myself included at times) are.
Does the excessive weight bother anyone else?
Also, I made the mistake of getting my bag with the black rubber strip, not realizing the inside would be black rubber. You can't find ANYTHING in there.
jamesthankyou for the review of the chrome bag . it was very constructive and solid comments . one of the most critical choice of a new bag is that it looks KOOL .and it WORKS . if the buckle annoys the collar bone . suckitup . few of the comments require more thoughtmy bag experience… owned . three completely different bags . three completely different sizes . different colours . different makers and counting .
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I have used a Chrome Citizen (smaller than tested here) bags for over 2 years commuting each day. If you want a messenger style bag then its is great. Really water proof, great amount of room for laptop and clothes and shoes, but its not too big that it is annoying. The buckle is comfortable (it should not be near your collarbone as described above, put the bag on properly) and I do use it as it allows taking the bag off without taking you helmet off. Its not often I really like a product but this one is great.
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