Comments for Bicycle Design http://bicycledesign.net Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:05:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 Comment on Urban Arrow- an electric assist bakfiets design by henry http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/urban-arrow-a-new-bakfiets-design/comment-page-1/#comment-11861 henry Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:05:18 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/?p=1480#comment-11861 Wytze, we might have said hello but didn't have a chance to talk in Friedrichshafen. It's funny that my reaction to the Urban Arrow is already anticipated. Perhaps that's because I'm one of the few people knowledgeable about load carrying bikes willing to review products or at least provide an honest, educated opinion. On the other hand it might just be because a LOT of people enjoyed my well deserved thrashing of the Triobike several years ago: http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2007/10/04/triobike-internet-reviews/ In any case reviewing products is tricky business when everybody knows that you're a competitor / colleague /collaborator. Concerning the Urban Arrow I'll reserve judgement until it's a real product and we've ridden and used it. The example shown at Eurobike was clearly a prototype, albeit a quite slick one. Certainly it all looks promising and feasible though ambitious. There's nothing to just point and laugh at. It's clearly got some sharp people behind it. In a nutshell: Looking forward to trying it. Concerning Robert's advertisement for the new 2-wheel Babboe above: It seems very difficult to know about the "Great design, great value for money" considering that the bike doesn't even exist yet. But if its three-wheeled brother is any indication we'll soon be repairing these and consoling many disappointed Babboe customers. Wytze, we might have said hello but didn’t have a chance to talk in Friedrichshafen. It’s funny that my reaction to the Urban Arrow is already anticipated. Perhaps that’s because I’m one of the few people knowledgeable about load carrying bikes willing to review products or at least provide an honest, educated opinion. On the other hand it might just be because a LOT of people enjoyed my well deserved thrashing of the Triobike several years ago: http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2007/10/04/triobike-internet-reviews/ In any case reviewing products is tricky business when everybody knows that you’re a competitor / colleague /collaborator.

Concerning the Urban Arrow I’ll reserve judgement until it’s a real product and we’ve ridden and used it. The example shown at Eurobike was clearly a prototype, albeit a quite slick one. Certainly it all looks promising and feasible though ambitious. There’s nothing to just point and laugh at. It’s clearly got some sharp people behind it. In a nutshell: Looking forward to trying it.

Concerning Robert’s advertisement for the new 2-wheel Babboe above: It seems very difficult to know about the “Great design, great value for money” considering that the bike doesn’t even exist yet. But if its three-wheeled brother is any indication we’ll soon be repairing these and consoling many disappointed Babboe customers.

]]> Comment on Compressor pneumatic bike by ACB http://bicycledesign.net/2008/02/compressor-pneumatic-bike/comment-page-1/#comment-11835 ACB Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:41:42 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/02/compressor-pneumatic-bike/#comment-11835 Old post, but worth a shot, well as fellow ID here, I'd say it's a growing process of Innovation, but to say that compressed air generates continuous motion for the bike (most unlikely), many factors needs to be re-considered (super vacuum formed metal?I'd say it's metal forging...expensive) that'd be like filling a tank of compressed air size of a hummer (takes a while,just to go round a block) you'd be pedaling to nowhere,good job though of generating "out of the box" innovation,you'd never know where you could pick up where somebody else left behind Old post, but worth a shot, well as fellow ID here, I’d say it’s a growing process of Innovation, but to say that compressed air generates continuous motion for the bike (most unlikely), many factors needs to be re-considered (super vacuum formed metal?I’d say it’s metal forging…expensive) that’d be like filling a tank of compressed air size of a hummer (takes a while,just to go round a block) you’d be pedaling to nowhere,good job though of generating “out of the box” innovation,you’d never know where you could pick up where somebody else left behind

]]> Comment on Urban Arrow- an electric assist bakfiets design by Cargo bikes goes electric and electric pink | Austin On Two Wheels http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/urban-arrow-a-new-bakfiets-design/comment-page-1/#comment-11803 Cargo bikes goes electric and electric pink | Austin On Two Wheels Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:49:58 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/?p=1480#comment-11803 [...] Eurobike, Dutch designer Wytze van Mansum introduced his prototype of an electric bakfiets that is set for production in the near future under the Urban Arrow brand. You may remember van [...] [...] Eurobike, Dutch designer Wytze van Mansum introduced his prototype of an electric bakfiets that is set for production in the near future under the Urban Arrow brand. You may remember van [...]

]]> Comment on Mark Sanders’ 1985 Strida thesis project by Colin http://bicycledesign.net/2010/07/mark-sanders%e2%80%99-1985-strida-thesis-project/comment-page-1/#comment-11781 Colin Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:11:24 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/?p=1297#comment-11781 > and even pre-Mountain bikes Not quite. I had a Muddy Fox Seeker in the early 1980's, and though in early wasn't the first to have one by any means. Happy days ;) > and even pre-Mountain bikes

Not quite. I had a Muddy Fox Seeker in the early 1980′s, and though in early wasn’t the first to have one by any means. Happy days ;)

]]> Comment on Cerevellum by Doug http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/cerevellum-2/comment-page-1/#comment-11765 Doug Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:53:08 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/?p=1384#comment-11765 This would be good on my tandem. The extra rider behind you makes it that much more challenging to keep track of traffic approaching from the rear. This would be good on my tandem. The extra rider behind you makes it that much more challenging to keep track of traffic approaching from the rear.

]]> Comment on Shimano STEPS group for e-bikes by Rebekah http://bicycledesign.net/2010/06/shimano-steps-group-for-e-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-11631 Rebekah Sat, 04 Sep 2010 21:05:29 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/?p=1243#comment-11631 Cool. Cool.

]]> Comment on Urban Arrow- an electric assist bakfiets design by Wytze http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/urban-arrow-a-new-bakfiets-design/comment-page-1/#comment-11590 Wytze Sat, 04 Sep 2010 07:41:38 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/?p=1480#comment-11590 @ nicolas: I am also very curious to his reaction. I just hope he understands the concept and will be able to look through the pre production details and that he does allow a competitor to his market; he does have kind of a double function as a reviewer. As said the lights will change for the production model. The 2 wheel cargobike existed long before Maarten van Andel. In bicycle design everything has already been done around 1900. Form follows function, so obviously functional products will have similarities. @ nicolas: I am also very curious to his reaction. I just hope he understands the concept and will be able to look through the pre production details and that he does allow a competitor to his market; he does have kind of a double function as a reviewer.
As said the lights will change for the production model.
The 2 wheel cargobike existed long before Maarten van Andel. In bicycle design everything has already been done around 1900. Form follows function, so obviously functional products will have similarities.

]]> Comment on Urban Arrow- an electric assist bakfiets design by Robert http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/urban-arrow-a-new-bakfiets-design/comment-page-1/#comment-11530 Robert Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:43:40 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/?p=1480#comment-11530 If you like the Urban arrow, you might as well check this one: The new 2 wheel Babboe cargo bike: www.babboe.com Great design, great value for money. Does anyone know if there will be an Electric version of it? If you like the Urban arrow, you might as well check this one:
The new 2 wheel Babboe cargo bike: http://www.babboe.com
Great design, great value for money. Does anyone know if there will be an Electric version of it?

]]> Comment on Urban Arrow- an electric assist bakfiets design by radler63 http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/urban-arrow-a-new-bakfiets-design/comment-page-1/#comment-11492 radler63 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:53:37 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/?p=1480#comment-11492 Please support our survey about battery electric cargo bikes and give us your preferences at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/cargobikes It serves to validate our hypotheses and helps improving RTD and cycling advocacy. only a few minutes needed, giving you also insight about the options you have, thanks Please support our survey about battery electric cargo bikes and give us your preferences at:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/cargobikes
It serves to validate our hypotheses and helps improving RTD and cycling advocacy.
only a few minutes needed, giving you also insight about the options you have,
thanks

]]> Comment on Urban Arrow- an electric assist bakfiets design by Richard Masoner http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/urban-arrow-a-new-bakfiets-design/comment-page-1/#comment-11488 Richard Masoner Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:11:51 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/?p=1480#comment-11488 Thanks for the followup, Wytze. I really the idea of using EPP for the box shell. Thanks for the followup, Wytze. I really the idea of using EPP for the box shell.

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