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	<title>Comments on: A couple of weeks with a bamboo WebbWorks Hilltribe</title>
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		<title>By: Gokhan Ceterez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gokhan Ceterez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what is the weight of the frame and overall of bike? 

thx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is the weight of the frame and overall of bike? </p>
<p>thx</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir Dzhuvinov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladimir Dzhuvinov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great! Does it theoreticaly float?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! Does it theoreticaly float?</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You say &quot;high weight-to-strength ratio&quot; but i think you mean strength-to-weight :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say &#8220;high weight-to-strength ratio&#8221; but i think you mean strength-to-weight <img src='http://bicycledesign.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in Asia and everything is made from bamboo here!  As far as wet weather goes, we have &quot;rainy season&quot; for about 4 or 5 months out of the year - everything stays damp.  The things that I see that are made from bamboo that ends up rotting are those structures or things that have not been treated.  When it is not raining in SE Asia it is hot, hot hot! So the things made from bamboo here are definitely exposed to both of these climates continuously.  Again, the &quot;stuff&quot; i see made from bamboo only suffers when it has not been treated properly.  Not sure about the crashing of a bamboo bike, but I know that bamboo is very strong!  They use it for furniture, buildings, scaffolding, and even bridges are woven from it.  These all would have to be very strong to hold the weight of many people.  If bamboo is treated, I think (by seeing all of the many things here made from it), it will and does last a long time. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Asia and everything is made from bamboo here!  As far as wet weather goes, we have &#8220;rainy season&#8221; for about 4 or 5 months out of the year &#8211; everything stays damp.  The things that I see that are made from bamboo that ends up rotting are those structures or things that have not been treated.  When it is not raining in SE Asia it is hot, hot hot! So the things made from bamboo here are definitely exposed to both of these climates continuously.  Again, the &#8220;stuff&#8221; i see made from bamboo only suffers when it has not been treated properly.  Not sure about the crashing of a bamboo bike, but I know that bamboo is very strong!  They use it for furniture, buildings, scaffolding, and even bridges are woven from it.  These all would have to be very strong to hold the weight of many people.  If bamboo is treated, I think (by seeing all of the many things here made from it), it will and does last a long time. <img src='http://bicycledesign.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fromage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fromage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aside from riding my bamboo road in all conditions in the US, there are happy bamboo owners covering the globe riding in all climate types.  
I haven&#039;t crashed yet, but I&#039;m sure it is durable as I have pushed mine pretty hard. 
(Knock on bamboo)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from riding my bamboo road in all conditions in the US, there are happy bamboo owners covering the globe riding in all climate types.<br />
I haven&#8217;t crashed yet, but I&#8217;m sure it is durable as I have pushed mine pretty hard.<br />
(Knock on bamboo)</p>
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		<title>By: James Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good questions, Matt. I am definitely not an expert on the subject, but I can tell you what I have heard. Before use, the bamboo pieces go through a curing process to dry them out completely. That prevents any rot that might occur from moisture that is naturally occurring in the material, but I assume that it is also critical to seal the bamboo and joints carefully after the frame is constructed to prevent any moisture from getting inside. Calfee touches on their process a bit &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.calfeedesign.com/products/bamboo/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on their website&lt;/a&gt;, and I assume other builders do something similar to prep the raw material. 

As far as crash durability goes, Bamboo has a high weight-to-strength ratio, which is why it has been used for a variety of structures for thousands of years (&lt;a href=&quot;http://bambus.rwth-aachen.de/eng/PDF-Files/Mechanical%20properties%20of%20bamboo.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this is a pretty good document&lt;/a&gt; about it’s mechanical properties if you are interested). Calfee points out on their website that the bamboo models are their &lt;em&gt;“most crash tolerant frames”&lt;/em&gt;, so that would indicate that they are less likely than a carbon bike to crack or break as a result of a crash.

As I said before though, my knowledge about bamboo is limited, so any of you with firsthand experience can elaborate or correct me if I am wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good questions, Matt. I am definitely not an expert on the subject, but I can tell you what I have heard. Before use, the bamboo pieces go through a curing process to dry them out completely. That prevents any rot that might occur from moisture that is naturally occurring in the material, but I assume that it is also critical to seal the bamboo and joints carefully after the frame is constructed to prevent any moisture from getting inside. Calfee touches on their process a bit <a href="http://www.calfeedesign.com/products/bamboo/" rel="nofollow">on their website</a>, and I assume other builders do something similar to prep the raw material. </p>
<p>As far as crash durability goes, Bamboo has a high weight-to-strength ratio, which is why it has been used for a variety of structures for thousands of years (<a href="http://bambus.rwth-aachen.de/eng/PDF-Files/Mechanical%20properties%20of%20bamboo.pdf" rel="nofollow">this is a pretty good document</a> about it’s mechanical properties if you are interested). Calfee points out on their website that the bamboo models are their <em>“most crash tolerant frames”</em>, so that would indicate that they are less likely than a carbon bike to crack or break as a result of a crash.</p>
<p>As I said before though, my knowledge about bamboo is limited, so any of you with firsthand experience can elaborate or correct me if I am wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do bamboo bikes do in wet weather - does it affect them at all?  Can a bamboo frame rot if it&#039;s in a regularly damp climate (or crack if it&#039;s in a dry climate)?  

Any ideas on what the durability is if you crash?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do bamboo bikes do in wet weather &#8211; does it affect them at all?  Can a bamboo frame rot if it&#8217;s in a regularly damp climate (or crack if it&#8217;s in a dry climate)?  </p>
<p>Any ideas on what the durability is if you crash?</p>
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