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	<title>Comments on: Vuelo Velo</title>
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		<title>By: Flaming June</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/vuelo-velo/comment-page-1/#comment-14154</link>
		<dc:creator>Flaming June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does someone know pricing for this bike?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does someone know pricing for this bike?</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Renwick</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/vuelo-velo/comment-page-1/#comment-11995</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Renwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank Juliano, You get it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank Juliano, You get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Renwick</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/vuelo-velo/comment-page-1/#comment-11994</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Renwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Jeff, You know you&#039;ve kind of hit the nail on the head there. Most.... not much interested in the lowest common denominator &quot;most&quot;. 
I&#039;ve just come back from hanging out at the tune.de factory in the Black Forest for a few days after Eurobike, amazing how the Germans get much right so much of the time. Love &#039;em!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeff, You know you&#8217;ve kind of hit the nail on the head there. Most&#8230;. not much interested in the lowest common denominator &#8220;most&#8221;.<br />
I&#8217;ve just come back from hanging out at the tune.de factory in the Black Forest for a few days after Eurobike, amazing how the Germans get much right so much of the time. Love &#8216;em!</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Renwick</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/vuelo-velo/comment-page-1/#comment-11992</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Renwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A right charlie,

If you actually look at the thing that your so openly criticising you&#039;ll see that it does in fact have curved seat stays and fork. Also note, the fork being curved has little effect on its ability to absorb shock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A right charlie,</p>
<p>If you actually look at the thing that your so openly criticising you&#8217;ll see that it does in fact have curved seat stays and fork. Also note, the fork being curved has little effect on its ability to absorb shock.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Renwick</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/vuelo-velo/comment-page-1/#comment-11989</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Renwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! Awful? 
Ill informed speculation, love it! 
It rides beautifully on the track, ask Nathan Page, ex Junior world pursuit record holder seen riding it in the video - http://vimeo.com/9653206
You think that the seat is set more rearward because of the ultra short 360mm rear end and forward curve in the seat tube before it goes back? It&#039;s actually a 73 degree effective seat tube angle (centre BB to seat clamp at the riders height (custom of course), 74 head, 38 mm of rake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Awful?<br />
Ill informed speculation, love it!<br />
It rides beautifully on the track, ask Nathan Page, ex Junior world pursuit record holder seen riding it in the video &#8211; <a href="http://vimeo.com/9653206" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/9653206</a><br />
You think that the seat is set more rearward because of the ultra short 360mm rear end and forward curve in the seat tube before it goes back? It&#8217;s actually a 73 degree effective seat tube angle (centre BB to seat clamp at the riders height (custom of course), 74 head, 38 mm of rake.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffS</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/vuelo-velo/comment-page-1/#comment-11387</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 03:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The booth was receiving a lot of attention at the NAHBS. I will admit that the bikes were definitely visually appealing. You don&#039;t have a position or fit issue if the bike is designed exactly right. If you know exactly where you want your seat, it should be right where you need it to be, both vertically and horizontally.

For the people that are used to buying a &quot;close enough&quot; size 58 and making it work - I&#039;m sure they&#039;re more than a little nervous about fit, as they should be.

More than anything though, I think the reaction of most brains is going to be to reject anything non-traditional, at least until they see enough of them on the streets to become comfortable with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The booth was receiving a lot of attention at the NAHBS. I will admit that the bikes were definitely visually appealing. You don&#8217;t have a position or fit issue if the bike is designed exactly right. If you know exactly where you want your seat, it should be right where you need it to be, both vertically and horizontally.</p>
<p>For the people that are used to buying a &#8220;close enough&#8221; size 58 and making it work &#8211; I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re more than a little nervous about fit, as they should be.</p>
<p>More than anything though, I think the reaction of most brains is going to be to reject anything non-traditional, at least until they see enough of them on the streets to become comfortable with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/vuelo-velo/comment-page-1/#comment-11353</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This looks to me like a bike designed to be ridden to a cafe and leaned against your table to attract attention.  For longer rides or racing, you&#039;d want a frame with a shape designed for functionality.  For attracting attention, radical swoops that degrade functionality are fine.

Note the straight fork and seat stays.  Those are places where curvature could be valuably functional.

Funny how we now have the technology to analyze and fabricate non traditional shapes, but somehow the market doesn&#039;t support using that capability to do anything worthwhile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks to me like a bike designed to be ridden to a cafe and leaned against your table to attract attention.  For longer rides or racing, you&#8217;d want a frame with a shape designed for functionality.  For attracting attention, radical swoops that degrade functionality are fine.</p>
<p>Note the straight fork and seat stays.  Those are places where curvature could be valuably functional.</p>
<p>Funny how we now have the technology to analyze and fabricate non traditional shapes, but somehow the market doesn&#8217;t support using that capability to do anything worthwhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Juliano</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/vuelo-velo/comment-page-1/#comment-11299</link>
		<dc:creator>Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They took advantage due the titanium has a distinct fatigue limit (like steel too), the frame is rigid in some planes and flexible in others (non-plastic deformation)...
 I think that is great]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They took advantage due the titanium has a distinct fatigue limit (like steel too), the frame is rigid in some planes and flexible in others (non-plastic deformation)&#8230;<br />
 I think that is great</p>
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		<title>By: 45 MPH! &#187; Cyclelicious</title>
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		<dc:creator>45 MPH! &#187; Cyclelicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Design reminds that Eurobike begins [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Design reminds that Eurobike begins [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/08/vuelo-velo/comment-page-1/#comment-11294</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe for a commuter bike... but that&#039;s an awful position to be in for track tracing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe for a commuter bike&#8230; but that&#8217;s an awful position to be in for track tracing.</p>
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