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	<title>Comments on: Mechanical doping and the future of e-bikes</title>
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		<title>By: the Massachusetts projet</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/06/mechanical-doping-and-the-future-of-e-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-24521</link>
		<dc:creator>the Massachusetts projet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] favorite saddle that weighs a few grams more.    one of these should get you up to the minimum: Mechanical doping and the future of e-bikes &#124; Bicycle Design      Die, v.: To stop sinning suddenly.            Reply With Quote &#160;               + Reply to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Josef</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/06/mechanical-doping-and-the-future-of-e-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-24400</link>
		<dc:creator>Josef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know where to buy?
 I appreciate you sending me a contact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know where to buy?<br />
 I appreciate you sending me a contact.</p>
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		<title>By: ebike-easy</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/06/mechanical-doping-and-the-future-of-e-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-23151</link>
		<dc:creator>ebike-easy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s rather unlikely that pro cyclists would resort to this kind of illegal support but thinking of the impact of doped bikes instead of doped athletes is kind of fun. Wouldn&#039;t the lobby of illegal medical doping distributors go mad after all? 

However, even if there&#039;s no real future for electric support in pro cycling, this might fuel design and enhance quality of electric bicycle motor kits after a while. Already today, it&#039;s not that &quot;geeky&quot; any more to use e-bikes so this is a kind of vehicle that is not limited to the &quot;not so enthusiastic&quot; cyclist any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s rather unlikely that pro cyclists would resort to this kind of illegal support but thinking of the impact of doped bikes instead of doped athletes is kind of fun. Wouldn&#8217;t the lobby of illegal medical doping distributors go mad after all? </p>
<p>However, even if there&#8217;s no real future for electric support in pro cycling, this might fuel design and enhance quality of electric bicycle motor kits after a while. Already today, it&#8217;s not that &#8220;geeky&#8221; any more to use e-bikes so this is a kind of vehicle that is not limited to the &#8220;not so enthusiastic&#8221; cyclist any more.</p>
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		<title>By: James T</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/06/mechanical-doping-and-the-future-of-e-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-5631</link>
		<dc:creator>James T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure I follow...why wouldn&#039;t a system like this work with Red?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I follow&#8230;why wouldn&#8217;t a system like this work with Red?</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/06/mechanical-doping-and-the-future-of-e-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-5605</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 02:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They use sram red lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They use sram red lol</p>
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		<title>By: John Beardmore</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/06/mechanical-doping-and-the-future-of-e-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-5533</link>
		<dc:creator>John Beardmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why dont they have the battery disguised as a water bottle with electrical connections on the bottom? Battery changes would then be possible and at the end of the race the battery could be passed back to the team car to save weight.

Also why go to the bother of a gear system? Why not design it from scratch and have the motor as the crank spindle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why dont they have the battery disguised as a water bottle with electrical connections on the bottom? Battery changes would then be possible and at the end of the race the battery could be passed back to the team car to save weight.</p>
<p>Also why go to the bother of a gear system? Why not design it from scratch and have the motor as the crank spindle?</p>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/06/mechanical-doping-and-the-future-of-e-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-5310</link>
		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all: THIS SUCKS!!! Man, does an athlete that does such a thing says &quot;I won&quot; after a race? this is much worse than drugs doping. 

BUT: The idea was great! Right now I ride a mountainbike and many times I made a trip to far and got exhausted way before getting home. An electric motor would&#039;ve helped  lot. Also, here in Holland the wind can be a big problem (I had to come back to the first gear to keep pedaling once on a flat street) and once I was struggling against the wind and there was an old lady with an electric bike just passing me by... 

Your website is great! Congratulations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all: THIS SUCKS!!! Man, does an athlete that does such a thing says &#8220;I won&#8221; after a race? this is much worse than drugs doping. </p>
<p>BUT: The idea was great! Right now I ride a mountainbike and many times I made a trip to far and got exhausted way before getting home. An electric motor would&#8217;ve helped  lot. Also, here in Holland the wind can be a big problem (I had to come back to the first gear to keep pedaling once on a flat street) and once I was struggling against the wind and there was an old lady with an electric bike just passing me by&#8230; </p>
<p>Your website is great! Congratulations</p>
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		<title>By: Leeroy</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/06/mechanical-doping-and-the-future-of-e-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-5264</link>
		<dc:creator>Leeroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gruber Assist and probably similar solutions are noisy when running. 

I don&#039;t know how much soundproofing you can do, but it certainly is a very risky thing for your cover to be blown by the noise of a kid&#039;s remote controlled toy car... coming from your bike! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gruber Assist and probably similar solutions are noisy when running. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how much soundproofing you can do, but it certainly is a very risky thing for your cover to be blown by the noise of a kid&#8217;s remote controlled toy car&#8230; coming from your bike! <img src='http://bicycledesign.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/06/mechanical-doping-and-the-future-of-e-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-5223</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 06:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a doubter on the weight penalty issues, but I started running the numbers (see my blog www.tronbike.com) and I too think for a flat stage, the motor and batts would be an advantage. Using the &quot;stock&quot; Gruber system, only 10 50g batteries are needed for a 100 watt, 50 minute run time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a doubter on the weight penalty issues, but I started running the numbers (see my blog <a href="http://www.tronbike.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tronbike.com</a>) and I too think for a flat stage, the motor and batts would be an advantage. Using the &#8220;stock&#8221; Gruber system, only 10 50g batteries are needed for a 100 watt, 50 minute run time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2010/06/mechanical-doping-and-the-future-of-e-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-5209</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow let me save 200 watts for a while and see what happens. i don t think 100 mins is possible  but i would think 15 or 20 is plenty to kill the pack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow let me save 200 watts for a while and see what happens. i don t think 100 mins is possible  but i would think 15 or 20 is plenty to kill the pack</p>
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