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		<title>By: Cannondale Dutchess follow-up &#124; Bicycle Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cannondale Dutchess follow-up &#124; Bicycle Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] blog&#8217;s stats for the last couple of days show that my last post, about the Cannondale Dutchess concept bike for women, has generated a LOT of interest. That [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blog&#8217;s stats for the last couple of days show that my last post, about the Cannondale Dutchess concept bike for women, has generated a LOT of interest. That [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mistie</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/11/cannondale-dutchess/comment-page-1/#comment-3536</link>
		<dc:creator>Mistie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are looking for an affordable, quality made “dutch style” bike you should check out http://www.bowerylanebicycles.com&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They are made by hand in american, out of american steele using solar power and they only cost $595.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are looking for an affordable, quality made “dutch style” bike you should check out <a href="http://www.bowerylanebicycles.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bowerylanebicycles.com</a></p>
<p>They are made by hand in american, out of american steele using solar power and they only cost $595.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s hard not to like the design; it does, after all, incorporate many of the ideas from last year&#039;s &#039;Win a Cannondale&#039; competition. I especially like the hidden cabling, the integral lighting, the folding bars, the curvy look etc etc. Can&#039;t wait to see &quot;The Duke&quot;....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s hard not to like the design; it does, after all, incorporate many of the ideas from last year&#39;s &#39;Win a Cannondale&#39; competition. I especially like the hidden cabling, the integral lighting, the folding bars, the curvy look etc etc. Can&#39;t wait to see &quot;The Duke&quot;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its perfect; most concepts are before people start looking for more practicality and maintainance solutions. It should be tough to fix so you feel you have to take care of it. If this goes to production it surely wont be so unique and specialty partsy. Compromises arent ussualy progress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its perfect; most concepts are before people start looking for more practicality and maintainance solutions. It should be tough to fix so you feel you have to take care of it. If this goes to production it surely wont be so unique and specialty partsy. Compromises arent ussualy progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is pretty, but I agree about the non-standard issue: that would of course usefully build in obsolescence - useful to manufacturers. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perversely, people in places with old cobblestone marketplaces use bicycles as transport rather than fashion accessories, and find the thought of replacing an expensive bike in under a couple of decades completely ridiculous, since the whole point of an expensive bike is precisely that it&#039;s robust and future-proofed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You spend money once on an expensive bicycle, and for decades afterwards, spend hardly any money on wheels; just use them to go eat out more whatever. Bling bikes, unlike bling cars, do not proclaim wealth, they just say &quot;gullible and vain&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Buyer-type thoughts:&lt;br /&gt;Drive: must be a fabulous innovation twice as efficient as any current form of drive. It had better be, if I have to buy non-standard parts three years up the line, or have some specialist fix it. Looks like not enough room for a shaft drive or the right shape for a belt/chain. (Is it actually working, or is she just freewheeling with her feet going round?) How do you get to it for maintenance? How many years will it last, then? I&#039;m not chucking out a whole bike in five years time!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The locking handlebars - how easy is it to get a car-jack in and break them apart? Or are they non-standard? &amp; non-adjustable? If The lock breaks/seizes up/key lost / gets vandalized, do I have to get whole new bike?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why is the back rack so robust-looking...yet so useless she can&#039;t put her stuff on it? No grippy thing? Doesn&#039;t look like room to drape a double-pannier, and anyway, a soft pannier will catch in the spokes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pretty. Don&#039;t want to look like a plonker riding a vanity-bike.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is pretty, but I agree about the non-standard issue: that would of course usefully build in obsolescence &#8211; useful to manufacturers. </p>
<p>Perversely, people in places with old cobblestone marketplaces use bicycles as transport rather than fashion accessories, and find the thought of replacing an expensive bike in under a couple of decades completely ridiculous, since the whole point of an expensive bike is precisely that it&#39;s robust and future-proofed. </p>
<p>You spend money once on an expensive bicycle, and for decades afterwards, spend hardly any money on wheels; just use them to go eat out more whatever. Bling bikes, unlike bling cars, do not proclaim wealth, they just say &quot;gullible and vain&quot;.</p>
<p>Buyer-type thoughts:<br />Drive: must be a fabulous innovation twice as efficient as any current form of drive. It had better be, if I have to buy non-standard parts three years up the line, or have some specialist fix it. Looks like not enough room for a shaft drive or the right shape for a belt/chain. (Is it actually working, or is she just freewheeling with her feet going round?) How do you get to it for maintenance? How many years will it last, then? I&#39;m not chucking out a whole bike in five years time!</p>
<p>The locking handlebars &#8211; how easy is it to get a car-jack in and break them apart? Or are they non-standard? &amp; non-adjustable? If The lock breaks/seizes up/key lost / gets vandalized, do I have to get whole new bike?</p>
<p>Why is the back rack so robust-looking&#8230;yet so useless she can&#39;t put her stuff on it? No grippy thing? Doesn&#39;t look like room to drape a double-pannier, and anyway, a soft pannier will catch in the spokes.</p>
<p>Pretty. Don&#39;t want to look like a plonker riding a vanity-bike.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@GeekGuyAndy - the vast majority of the Dutch style bikes used day-in-day-out for urban commuting don&#039;t have quick releases on the wheels either. With a sturdy set of urban tyres there&#039;s no need to worry unduly about punctures and I don&#039;t think this concept is aimed at the &#039;fix-it-at-home&#039; crowd ;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are those hubs standard stock parts from someone? Maybe I should pay more attention to the Shimano catalogue...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m really interested in the drivetrain. It&#039;s obviously not a standard chain setup, I&#039;m not even sure a carbon belt would work in that situation. Perhaps a shaft drive?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regardless, it&#039;s a concept bike that I can actually see working in the real world with some really neat features (handlebars as lock? Genius!) that hopefully will make it to production even if this bike doesn&#039;t. I am however somewhat jealous that they&#039;re not doing a &#039;male&#039; version.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GeekGuyAndy &#8211; the vast majority of the Dutch style bikes used day-in-day-out for urban commuting don&#39;t have quick releases on the wheels either. With a sturdy set of urban tyres there&#39;s no need to worry unduly about punctures and I don&#39;t think this concept is aimed at the &#39;fix-it-at-home&#39; crowd <img src='http://bicycledesign.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Are those hubs standard stock parts from someone? Maybe I should pay more attention to the Shimano catalogue&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#39;m really interested in the drivetrain. It&#39;s obviously not a standard chain setup, I&#39;m not even sure a carbon belt would work in that situation. Perhaps a shaft drive?</p>
<p>Regardless, it&#39;s a concept bike that I can actually see working in the real world with some really neat features (handlebars as lock? Genius!) that hopefully will make it to production even if this bike doesn&#39;t. I am however somewhat jealous that they&#39;re not doing a &#39;male&#39; version.</p>
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		<title>By: GeekGuyAndy</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeekGuyAndy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! A concept bike that could actually be ridden! :D&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The rear fender would be more useful if it came down farther though. If it doesn&#039;t get behind the wheel, then muck/gunk/water/whatever will still fly forward at a high angle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s neat to see new pedal systems, but it&#039;s limiting if there are no cheaply available spare parts. Can&#039;t tell what kind of drive this has either.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Integrated lights are helpful, but I don&#039;t see where or how these are powered. Maybe these are special hubs?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for those wheels, I don&#039;t see a quick release. Good luck if you want to take a wheel off I guess? Again, specialty parts will only increase cost to buy and repair.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Looks neat, rideable, but an expensive way to buy and maintain a bike like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! A concept bike that could actually be ridden! <img src='http://bicycledesign.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The rear fender would be more useful if it came down farther though. If it doesn&#39;t get behind the wheel, then muck/gunk/water/whatever will still fly forward at a high angle.</p>
<p>It&#39;s neat to see new pedal systems, but it&#39;s limiting if there are no cheaply available spare parts. Can&#39;t tell what kind of drive this has either.</p>
<p>Integrated lights are helpful, but I don&#39;t see where or how these are powered. Maybe these are special hubs?</p>
<p>As for those wheels, I don&#39;t see a quick release. Good luck if you want to take a wheel off I guess? Again, specialty parts will only increase cost to buy and repair.</p>
<p>Looks neat, rideable, but an expensive way to buy and maintain a bike like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Yokota Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yokota Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the swoopy curves on this one a lot, and it looks like it could even work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the swoopy curves on this one a lot, and it looks like it could even work.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Orgell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Orgell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is an elegant looking bike, I&#039;ll definitely give it that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an elegant looking bike, I&#39;ll definitely give it that.</p>
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		<title>By: Champs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Champs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a spiffy looking bike. I&#039;d absolutely put Mrs. Champs on one of these, preferably the model that comes with brakes.  That rear fender could be more practical, too, without ruining the lines.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s a spiffy looking bike. I&#39;d absolutely put Mrs. Champs on one of these, preferably the model that comes with brakes.  That rear fender could be more practical, too, without ruining the lines.</p>
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