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	<title>Comments on: Future City Mobility: London 2030</title>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/06/future-city-mobility-london-2030/comment-page-1/#comment-3228</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;re some cool designs at http://www.ibdcaward.org&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s an international bike design competition held in Taiwan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;re some cool designs at <a href="http://www.ibdcaward.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibdcaward.org</a><br />It&#39;s an international bike design competition held in Taiwan.</p>
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		<title>By: Rüdiger</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/06/future-city-mobility-london-2030/comment-page-1/#comment-3188</link>
		<dc:creator>Rüdiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yawn.  A bit blue sky?  To say the least.  Yet another &quot;concept&quot; bike that is impractical and breaks no new ground in innovation or aesthetics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn.  A bit blue sky?  To say the least.  Yet another &quot;concept&quot; bike that is impractical and breaks no new ground in innovation or aesthetics.</p>
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		<title>By: MonkAre</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/06/future-city-mobility-london-2030/comment-page-1/#comment-3181</link>
		<dc:creator>MonkAre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s so nice site. We love to see more on this site. Keep on updating… MonkAreRee Bali ***]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s so nice site. We love to see more on this site. Keep on updating… MonkAreRee Bali ***</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/06/future-city-mobility-london-2030/comment-page-1/#comment-3179</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh no. not another hubless wheeled bike.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh no. not another hubless wheeled bike.</p>
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		<title>By: Human_Amp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Human_Amp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fabulous - and most inspiring to create a better future - well done !&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;FWIW Seymour-Powell (who gave the design award at the RCA) are great designers and especially inspiring design thinkers ... check out their recent lectures ... well worth a watch to be inspired to make the world better ... (fun to watch too !)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Richard Seymour&lt;br /&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO4r3CZx6G0&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dick Powell&lt;br /&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMRrI0lQ0Po&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They may just inspire about design rather than raise heckles ! .... Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous &#8211; and most inspiring to create a better future &#8211; well done !</p>
<p>FWIW Seymour-Powell (who gave the design award at the RCA) are great designers and especially inspiring design thinkers &#8230; check out their recent lectures &#8230; well worth a watch to be inspired to make the world better &#8230; (fun to watch too !)</p>
<p>Richard Seymour<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO4r3CZx6G0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO4r3CZx6G0</a></p>
<p>Dick Powell<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMRrI0lQ0Po" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMRrI0lQ0Po</a></p>
<p>They may just inspire about design rather than raise heckles ! &#8230;. Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/06/future-city-mobility-london-2030/comment-page-1/#comment-3177</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ooops.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, having actually looked at the images, it looks like Ron was right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Charging batteries on a bicycle is a terrible, terrible idea. It would make pedalling so much less efficient. I like my plan more. More digital, less physical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops.</p>
<p>Well, having actually looked at the images, it looks like Ron was right.</p>
<p>Charging batteries on a bicycle is a terrible, terrible idea. It would make pedalling so much less efficient. I like my plan more. More digital, less physical.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/06/future-city-mobility-london-2030/comment-page-1/#comment-3176</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...I think the idea may have been that the more you ride your bike, the bigger the discount you get when you do decide to use other forms of public transportation, rewarding you for being mostly-green.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or maybe not. But that&#039;s what I think it _should_ have meant, anyway, hahah.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also: let it be known that I am really, really, really sick of hubless wheel concepts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I think the idea may have been that the more you ride your bike, the bigger the discount you get when you do decide to use other forms of public transportation, rewarding you for being mostly-green.</p>
<p>Or maybe not. But that&#39;s what I think it _should_ have meant, anyway, hahah.</p>
<p>Also: let it be known that I am really, really, really sick of hubless wheel concepts.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting. Mr. Walgren needs to work for Hollywood. I don&#039;t know how many innerable times I have seen folks suggesting we can easily power a double decker battery electric powered bus aimed to cruise at 40-60mph while carrying several people and equipment. Its all well and good to dream about that, but just to put things into perspective, battery powered buses today are still some of the least reliable of the fleet. You need hundreds of pounds of batteries to give you the same energy as that of a gallon of gasoline and its very costly to operate these. On top of that, considering human muscular efficiency is around 25%, each person will have to produce huge wattage to put anything useful into the bus. And if not a lot of people are riding on the bus anyway, it is economically unfeasible to operate it and I think pointless for a few to produce that much energy for a &#039;currency&#039; system, just to ride the bus. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m curious, why doesn&#039;t Marten suggest that you save your energy and jsut ride a bike for that distance, instead of having to go through all this conversion business, using it as energy currencies and what not. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. Mr. Walgren needs to work for Hollywood. I don&#39;t know how many innerable times I have seen folks suggesting we can easily power a double decker battery electric powered bus aimed to cruise at 40-60mph while carrying several people and equipment. Its all well and good to dream about that, but just to put things into perspective, battery powered buses today are still some of the least reliable of the fleet. You need hundreds of pounds of batteries to give you the same energy as that of a gallon of gasoline and its very costly to operate these. On top of that, considering human muscular efficiency is around 25%, each person will have to produce huge wattage to put anything useful into the bus. And if not a lot of people are riding on the bus anyway, it is economically unfeasible to operate it and I think pointless for a few to produce that much energy for a &#39;currency&#39; system, just to ride the bus. </p>
<p>I&#39;m curious, why doesn&#39;t Marten suggest that you save your energy and jsut ride a bike for that distance, instead of having to go through all this conversion business, using it as energy currencies and what not. <img src='http://bicycledesign.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GeekGuyAndy</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeekGuyAndy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d whine that there isn&#039;t a rack, but heck, there isn&#039;t even a waterbottle holder!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe this design helps for their complicated mobility system, but I&#039;d love to see some designers come up with bikes that are more functional. How about better ways to carry gear or making a more efficient drivetrain? There&#039;s just too many &quot;designs&quot; that are just infeasible and made to look pretty instead of being functional.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d whine that there isn&#39;t a rack, but heck, there isn&#39;t even a waterbottle holder!</p>
<p>Maybe this design helps for their complicated mobility system, but I&#39;d love to see some designers come up with bikes that are more functional. How about better ways to carry gear or making a more efficient drivetrain? There&#39;s just too many &quot;designs&quot; that are just infeasible and made to look pretty instead of being functional.</p>
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