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		<title>By: The LightLane concept is moving forward &#124; Bicycle Design</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/01/lightlane/comment-page-1/#comment-3747</link>
		<dc:creator>The LightLane concept is moving forward &#124; Bicycle Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may remember about 6 months ago when I posted the LightLane concept, which was designed by two Altitude employees, Evan Gant and Alex Tee. Their concept, which [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] may remember about 6 months ago when I posted the LightLane concept, which was designed by two Altitude employees, Evan Gant and Alex Tee. Their concept, which [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/01/lightlane/comment-page-1/#comment-3337</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know where you all live, but here in France it would not be useful.&lt;br /&gt;Virtual or real bike lanes, car drivers won&#039;t pay attention to bikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t know where you all live, but here in France it would not be useful.<br />Virtual or real bike lanes, car drivers won&#39;t pay attention to bikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy 200th</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/01/lightlane/comment-page-1/#comment-2773</link>
		<dc:creator>Darcy 200th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a transportation planner perspective:&lt;br/&gt;The concept of motor-vehicle operator obstacle/signage visibility is lacking.  All ground paint used on roads is visible at very low angles (i.e. from far away) in low light situations.  The lasers wouldn&#039;t be visible until the driver is right next to, and if travelling at sufficient speed, ontop of the cyclist.&lt;br/&gt;You would be better off, as some comments suggest, to have a flourescent &#039;halo&#039; or ground effect around your bike, as opposed to lasers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a transportation planner perspective:<br />The concept of motor-vehicle operator obstacle/signage visibility is lacking.  All ground paint used on roads is visible at very low angles (i.e. from far away) in low light situations.  The lasers wouldn&#8217;t be visible until the driver is right next to, and if travelling at sufficient speed, ontop of the cyclist.<br />You would be better off, as some comments suggest, to have a flourescent &#8216;halo&#8217; or ground effect around your bike, as opposed to lasers.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in Seattle</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/01/lightlane/comment-page-1/#comment-2736</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott in Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 06:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get the same desired effect with the two-tube version of the Down Low Glow from RockTheBike.com. I&#039;ve directed the half-silvered neon tubes to give me a three- or four-foot pool of light on the street on either side of the bike. Cars now give me a wider berth than they formerly did, as if they&#039;re afraid to drive through the light. (I ride a Brompton. Because of the fold, I can&#039;t put the neon tubes on the bottom of the main tube, so I put one on each side.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the same desired effect with the two-tube version of the Down Low Glow from RockTheBike.com. I&#8217;ve directed the half-silvered neon tubes to give me a three- or four-foot pool of light on the street on either side of the bike. Cars now give me a wider berth than they formerly did, as if they&#8217;re afraid to drive through the light. (I ride a Brompton. Because of the fold, I can&#8217;t put the neon tubes on the bottom of the main tube, so I put one on each side.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/01/lightlane/comment-page-1/#comment-2730</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mm wouldn&#039;t the projected light disappear under much brighter head lights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mm wouldn&#8217;t the projected light disappear under much brighter head lights?</p>
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		<title>By: E.DeGolier</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/01/lightlane/comment-page-1/#comment-2625</link>
		<dc:creator>E.DeGolier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I never got around to finishing a concept this was an idea I sketched up as well. For all the no-cyclists I know the main barrier to cycling (in London) is the perception of danger from cars passing closely. I like the use of lasers to crisply define the lane and I really doubt it would encourage car drivers to behave any more dangerously than they do now. They have centre line markers on many roads and have to use their judgment on narrower roads repeatedly even without bikes. I&#039;d be more concerned that even the laser light would get washed away in headlights, making it ineffective. The other problem is that non-cyclists are probably the least likely to get out at night. So it may not be addressing the right crowd. &lt;br/&gt;I do like the idea of encouraging drivers to keep a larger gap. I think it is a more feasible solution than cocooning the rider like the winning entry does. Can you imagine trying to park that thing in a crowded downtown area, or dragging it up to your 2nd floor flat to avoid the inevitable vandalism bicycles see?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I never got around to finishing a concept this was an idea I sketched up as well. For all the no-cyclists I know the main barrier to cycling (in London) is the perception of danger from cars passing closely. I like the use of lasers to crisply define the lane and I really doubt it would encourage car drivers to behave any more dangerously than they do now. They have centre line markers on many roads and have to use their judgment on narrower roads repeatedly even without bikes. I&#8217;d be more concerned that even the laser light would get washed away in headlights, making it ineffective. The other problem is that non-cyclists are probably the least likely to get out at night. So it may not be addressing the right crowd. <br />I do like the idea of encouraging drivers to keep a larger gap. I think it is a more feasible solution than cocooning the rider like the winning entry does. Can you imagine trying to park that thing in a crowded downtown area, or dragging it up to your 2nd floor flat to avoid the inevitable vandalism bicycles see?</p>
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		<title>By: Yokota Fritz</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/01/lightlane/comment-page-1/#comment-2616</link>
		<dc:creator>Yokota Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew I had seen something like that before; thanks for linking to my brief post that I forgot about! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew I had seen something like that before; thanks for linking to my brief post that I forgot about! <img src='http://bicycledesign.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/01/lightlane/comment-page-1/#comment-2615</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be more interested in a system that illuminates the back of the bike and cyclist in red, but without projecting that light forward which would confuse oncoming drivers. This way drivers approaching from the rear would see the whole cyclist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be more interested in a system that illuminates the back of the bike and cyclist in red, but without projecting that light forward which would confuse oncoming drivers. This way drivers approaching from the rear would see the whole cyclist.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Nicholson</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/01/lightlane/comment-page-1/#comment-2614</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, sometimes I just get carried away.  Chain thinking, I call it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, sometimes I just get carried away.  Chain thinking, I call it.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Nicholson</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2009/01/lightlane/comment-page-1/#comment-2613</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This idea requires testing and refinement.  Various projections might give drivers optical illusions  or misinform drivers about the bicycle identification or relative speed of the rider.  A bicycle speed projection onto the pavement, along with a triangle, could be useful where a too fast moving dashed line might not. A color change for higher speeds could color code bike riders, motorcycle riders, and rocketmen.  &lt;br/&gt;A guided laser based upon accurate GPS data could paint all the roads for everybody, add some satellite sensor data and ice patches could be marked for all to see.  &lt;br/&gt;We could get rid of streetlights altogether, ditto all those millions of gallons of paint slopped onto roadways every year, too.  Lasers  would be cheaper.  All the signs, too, we could laser that information onto the roads for drivers to read, too, based upon GPS coordinates.  Imagine no more roadsigns, no more stop signs, no more traffic signs, everything on a little screen in front of you.  &lt;br/&gt;Of course a road display of laser illumination could be just one of many cheaper alternatives, too.  The state would have to control it all with electronic license tags, saving many tons of metal carried around on the back and often fronts of millions of cars making them heavier and less efficient.&lt;br/&gt;What do we have all those computers for if not for keeping up with such stuff?  License tags on cars are as smart as putting all the information about a package&#039;s destination on the package and then losing the package (e.g. the US postal service).  (I invented &#039;click and ship&#039; although my  name was &#039;the virtual post office&#039;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idea requires testing and refinement.  Various projections might give drivers optical illusions  or misinform drivers about the bicycle identification or relative speed of the rider.  A bicycle speed projection onto the pavement, along with a triangle, could be useful where a too fast moving dashed line might not. A color change for higher speeds could color code bike riders, motorcycle riders, and rocketmen.  <br />A guided laser based upon accurate GPS data could paint all the roads for everybody, add some satellite sensor data and ice patches could be marked for all to see.  <br />We could get rid of streetlights altogether, ditto all those millions of gallons of paint slopped onto roadways every year, too.  Lasers  would be cheaper.  All the signs, too, we could laser that information onto the roads for drivers to read, too, based upon GPS coordinates.  Imagine no more roadsigns, no more stop signs, no more traffic signs, everything on a little screen in front of you.  <br />Of course a road display of laser illumination could be just one of many cheaper alternatives, too.  The state would have to control it all with electronic license tags, saving many tons of metal carried around on the back and often fronts of millions of cars making them heavier and less efficient.<br />What do we have all those computers for if not for keeping up with such stuff?  License tags on cars are as smart as putting all the information about a package&#8217;s destination on the package and then losing the package (e.g. the US postal service).  (I invented &#8216;click and ship&#8217; although my  name was &#8216;the virtual post office&#8217;.)</p>
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