Comments on: Designs from Trek World 09 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=designs-from-trek-world-09 The blog about industrial design in the bike industry Sat, 18 May 2013 07:48:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Motorized long bikes | Bicycle Design http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/comment-page-1/#comment-3909 Motorized long bikes | Bicycle Design Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:35:32 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/#comment-3909 [...] was a bit of long bike discussion on the blog recently in response to a couple of posts about the Fisher El Ranchero concept. Frequent commenter bikesgonewild was the first to mention that the [...]

]]> By: Alexander Girard cruisers from Electra | Bicycle Design http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/comment-page-1/#comment-3797 Alexander Girard cruisers from Electra | Bicycle Design Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:02:22 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/#comment-3797 [...] mentioned the Trek District, a belt drive single speed which you may remember from a post back in August. That bike has received a lot of press since it was unveiled at Trek World this summer, so I was [...]

]]> By: deerfencer http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/comment-page-1/#comment-3233 deerfencer Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:45:28 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/#comment-3233 Pretty funny to read the pro aluminum backlash posts by the ignorami among us. The early Cannondale beer can-sized aluminum mtb frames were famous for 1) their brutal ride and 2) cracking/failing under moderate stress. Garbage is garbage, and warranty replacements are no excuse for what was essentially a flawed engineering decision.

Years later, CAAD puter tweaking and various chemical tricks have gotten aluminum out of the garbage heap and into the mainstream, and I'll admit the new frames have their place, especially on suspended bikes. But to discount high-tensile steel as an "arrrogant" poseur is just ignorant IMO. The fact remains that steel is superior both in ride quality and ultimate strength.

Aluminum and carbon fiber continue to rule the day for their fashionably light weight but they will never approach the long-lived robustness and sweet ride characteristics of quality high-tensile steel frames, period.

]]> By: -p http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/comment-page-1/#comment-1999 -p Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:42:00 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/#comment-1999 Perhaps that rubber pad on the Soho frame can make hipster foam tubes obsolete.

]]> By: danlatorre http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/comment-page-1/#comment-1990 danlatorre Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:29:00 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/#comment-1990 Totally agree about the need for the Soho to be a steel frame.

I had a Soho S and loved it, however the aluminum frame really was too unforgiving in NYC streets. I work in Soho actually and found it funny that the Trek Soho bike isn’t made for where it’s named.

On urban streets you need steel. I’ve tried both, and it’s pretty obvious.

Have my eye on a Torelli Tipo Uno now:
http://www.torelli.com/tipouno.html

]]> By: James http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/comment-page-1/#comment-1977 James Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:29:00 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/#comment-1977 Thanks for commenting Gary. It’s great to get some insight about the bike straight from the source. As much as I like race oriented road and mountain bikes, “bikes that do things” are what get me excited from a design standpoint. I started this blog nearly 3 years ago for that very reason and it is really cool to see the industry gaining some momentum in that direction. It is definitely an exciting time to be dreaming of news ways to get more people on bikes. Anyway, I can’t wait to see the next iteration of a Fisher long tail bike as well as all of the other Fisher transportation oriented designs to come.

bgw, thanks for reiterating Gary’s longtime interest in transportation oriented bikes. It is good to throw that out there for those who haven’t been paying attention for the last 20 or so years.

]]> By: bikesgonewild http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/comment-page-1/#comment-1975 bikesgonewild Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:20:00 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/#comment-1975 …very glad to see you weighing in here, gary…hopefully you'll come back often…james runs a good & informative site…

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…i wish to make a point for those who don't know gary's basic history & might think he's jumping on new bandwagons with his different & interesting future models (ie: “bikes that do things”)…

…the advent of the mtb was only a stop along the way (albeit an important one) in gary's long, involved bicycle history…it goes back to being a racing cyclist when he was a kid…when it was not a popular american sport & serious cyclists were considered to be "oddballs"…

…i take the time to mention this only because i'm glad to see gary getting props & recognition for being a long time bicycle advocate…his name, while being intrinsically linked to the mountain bike, has a greater depth, by the fact that, as he sez “we want to change the world” w/ the bicycle…

…i guarantee you, that's been his thought since he was a young man…& we all benefit by it…

]]> By: geefisher http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/comment-page-1/#comment-1972 geefisher Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:08:00 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/#comment-1972 Hey – We will make a long bike, E bike? RIGHT on!
This is a concept bike, I have had a Extracycle and a pair of Bakfeits, one with the box and one with the long rear end for over 4 years.
Ross from Extracycle is my bud. Your point on the rack compatabilty is right on, I am with you, the ID guys and girls get into there own ideas, this is good. It’s a proto after all.
We will do steel.
The new alloy that Klein developed has much more ductilty than before making Aluminum a better choice than before, however we have many years with steel, thats where we started.
What is gong on with what I call “Bikes that do things” makes us excited because of the $$$ but thats not what we are about, we want to change the world.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Love,
Gary Fisher

]]> By: Yokota Fritz http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/comment-page-1/#comment-1971 Yokota Fritz Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:37:00 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/#comment-1971 The Trek Allant is steel, anyway. And the 2009 Soho has a steel fork (hi ten, no less!) The 2008 Soho is Alfine, but I don’t have info on what the ’09 belt drive hub will be.

That Fisher longtail — remember that the Simple City was also a concept bike, but Fisher/Trek went ahead with production because of huge consumer interest. According to Trek, the Simple City line has been a tremendous success for them.

]]> By: bikesgonewild http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/comment-page-1/#comment-1970 bikesgonewild Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:34:00 +0000 http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/designs-from-trek-world-09/#comment-1970 …grrsh…i'd venture to say that trek is doing it's typical proprietary 'thing' & they want to sell you their parts, at their trek store…

…i don't see it as the "evil" some people do, but it is rather disingenuous…the more you "buy" into it, the more you'll rely on trek, rather than looking around at the market, when you need something cycle related…

…i enjoy the freedom of a wide ranging choice, myself…

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