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		<title>By: Folders, e-bikes, bent-ply and more &#124; Bicycle Design</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2007/03/the-electrobike-cometh/comment-page-1/#comment-3766</link>
		<dc:creator>Folders, e-bikes, bent-ply and more &#124; Bicycle Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Gary Fisher tweeted about a “beta version” Trek e-bike that will apparently be test marketed, with a selling price of $2,200, in a few select bike shops in August (see a prototype model in the photo above). I can’t wait to find out more about this bike from Trek and I really look forward to seeing more electric bike development from all of the big bike companies in the near future. On the subject of electric bikes, check out this Bike Hugger post from earlier today and this older Bicycle Design guest post by Michael Downes. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gary Fisher tweeted about a “beta version” Trek e-bike that will apparently be test marketed, with a selling price of $2,200, in a few select bike shops in August (see a prototype model in the photo above). I can’t wait to find out more about this bike from Trek and I really look forward to seeing more electric bike development from all of the big bike companies in the near future. On the subject of electric bikes, check out this Bike Hugger post from earlier today and this older Bicycle Design guest post by Michael Downes. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BTWD, Di2, and more &#124; Bicycle Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>BTWD, Di2, and more &#124; Bicycle Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Finally, I will mention a post that is only tangentially related to bikes. Designboom posted recently about electric motorcycles and scooters. At first glance, a few of the scooter designs reminded me of some of the Chinese electrobikes that we have discussed on the blog before. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, I will mention a post that is only tangentially related to bikes. Designboom posted recently about electric motorcycles and scooters. At first glance, a few of the scooter designs reminded me of some of the Chinese electrobikes that we have discussed on the blog before. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: electric bikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>electric bikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow, those bikes look so cool!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, those bikes look so cool!</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.electricbikesnscooters.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Electric Bicycles and Electric Scooters&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Elmo The Electric Bike and Electric Scooter Guy&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is an excellent blog for electric bicycles. There are not too many around like this. Thanks for making this such an interesting subject. Oh, by the way, Wired Magazine has a great article on hybrid cars this month. (Jan 2008 issue).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;God Bless,&lt;br/&gt;Elmo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.electricbikesnscooters.com" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow"> Electric Bicycles and Electric Scooters</a></p>
<p>Elmo The Electric Bike and Electric Scooter Guy</p>
<p>This is an excellent blog for electric bicycles. There are not too many around like this. Thanks for making this such an interesting subject. Oh, by the way, Wired Magazine has a great article on hybrid cars this month. (Jan 2008 issue).</p>
<p>God Bless,<br />Elmo</p>
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		<title>By: Edu&#38;Nano</title>
		<link>http://bicycledesign.net/2007/03/the-electrobike-cometh/comment-page-1/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>Edu&#38;Nano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have made a comment on Bk´s blog than Chinese is the language of the future. The future is there, they´ve total manufacturing control for the industry. &lt;br/&gt;In the European and Usa companies there are much more fear to keep their market (their name) quotes than going further in really R&amp;D projects, resulting advantages. Look at Shimano for instance they remain last ten years in a &quot;one-gear-more-war&quot;, and reduce drastically the reliability and durability of their transmisions. I believe the future bicicle gear is more in the way of rollhoff or Nuvinci gears, than shimano´s way to run out the sprocket posibilities.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The main problem on that is the bycicle industry owners have not the enough &quot;courage&quot; to change the things, they keep their minds busy with things like those:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- One twist more on the rear suspension shock&lt;br/&gt;- What will be the next year shimano evo?&lt;br/&gt;- Can we create another discipline between the Freeride and DH?&lt;br/&gt;- Ok, All we have specific women design, why not teenagers Specific design or mid age, or retired?&lt;br/&gt;- Can we make next year frame ten grams lighter than actual removing seat clamp?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the last ten years I´ve seen many unuseful gags for bycicling than many years before. The problem was before they simply disappear in the market, but now there are an artificial pressure on the consumers(magazines, retailers, and the consumers of course) for get´em.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Like yours I´m a fan of simplicity and all these stuff (tubeless, hydraulic disc brakes, more unuseful gears, etc) make the bikes more complex and expensive, and they do not solve real problems. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Magazines are clearly divorced for the medium users and beginners, those are the &quot;market&quot;, they don´t test or report about 1000€ bikes, they do not make consistent test of those really interesting bikes, they test hand-made-special-series-custom edition, For what? How much is the market quote for that?0.5 %?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Edu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have made a comment on Bk´s blog than Chinese is the language of the future. The future is there, they´ve total manufacturing control for the industry. <br />In the European and Usa companies there are much more fear to keep their market (their name) quotes than going further in really R&#038;D projects, resulting advantages. Look at Shimano for instance they remain last ten years in a &#8220;one-gear-more-war&#8221;, and reduce drastically the reliability and durability of their transmisions. I believe the future bicicle gear is more in the way of rollhoff or Nuvinci gears, than shimano´s way to run out the sprocket posibilities.</p>
<p>The main problem on that is the bycicle industry owners have not the enough &#8220;courage&#8221; to change the things, they keep their minds busy with things like those:</p>
<p>- One twist more on the rear suspension shock<br />- What will be the next year shimano evo?<br />- Can we create another discipline between the Freeride and DH?<br />- Ok, All we have specific women design, why not teenagers Specific design or mid age, or retired?<br />- Can we make next year frame ten grams lighter than actual removing seat clamp?</p>
<p>In the last ten years I´ve seen many unuseful gags for bycicling than many years before. The problem was before they simply disappear in the market, but now there are an artificial pressure on the consumers(magazines, retailers, and the consumers of course) for get´em.  </p>
<p>Like yours I´m a fan of simplicity and all these stuff (tubeless, hydraulic disc brakes, more unuseful gears, etc) make the bikes more complex and expensive, and they do not solve real problems. </p>
<p>Magazines are clearly divorced for the medium users and beginners, those are the &#8220;market&#8221;, they don´t test or report about 1000€ bikes, they do not make consistent test of those really interesting bikes, they test hand-made-special-series-custom edition, For what? How much is the market quote for that?0.5 %?</p>
<p>Edu</p>
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